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Sometimes I find amazing things in the comment sections of this blog.  Today I found an outstanding, research-based analysis of the Primerica opportunity.  In fact, it’s so comprehensive and well written that I contacted the author in hopes that she’d let me turn it into a guest post.  She did.

By Jennifer Macourek

** Disclaimer** I don’t know much about Primerica. I sell mattresses and have no interest in offering financial services or working as a financial adviser. My knowledge of either of those fields is extremely limited. **

One of my guests came into my store this afternoon with business cards from Primerica. He is a grandfather who has worked in data analysis for a great portion of his life and has since been unable to find work in his respective field. He told me about a financial services opportunity he was embarking upon, and was trying to rally other people in a similar position (given the current climate of the job market here in Jacksonville, FL and elsewhere) to join him as independent contractors. He was basically asking me and another associate in the store whom he’d met to refer others to him.

It just so happens that my friend has been looking for work in Jacksonville and, needless to say, has been having a tough time finding it. For his sake, I was interested in the company and learning more about it. Heck, who knew? Perhaps I’d find a way to earn a little extra income as well…

So, as a graduate with a degree in journalism, I did what I do best. I researched. I’ve read the Primerica Web site and numerous blog posts and comments, both for and against its reputation, products, the way its representatives present their products and the representatives’ breadth of product knowledge.

Again, I know very little of the differences in financial products, but I suppose at some point soon (I’m 23 years old), I’ll have to get knowledgeable.  I am simply writing to share the trends in the information (some well-organized and thought-out, some not so much) I have read and absorbed thus far and to offer my opinions based on that information for those interested in becoming a customer or employee of Primerica.

On its Web site, Primerica does not refer to positions for representatives as jobs, or even careers, merely opportunities. In that way, the company is not misrepresenting itself. However, nowhere on the Web site is there an admission that the structure of the company in MLM (multi-level marketing) and understandably so, there are plenty of negative connotations of MLMs, for example its likeness to a pyramid scheme. Still, it would have been nice for my guest to clarify that once I had expressed interest.

I have noticed a trend in the defenses of many (not all) of the self-proclaimed Primerica representatives on the numerous blogs and open discussions I have read. When addressing a negative claim about Primerica, many times the representative will pose a question or ask for support, unrelated to the claim. For example, in the comment section of one of the posts on this very blog, Xprimerican claimed that Primerica does not guarantee their 25, 30, and 35-year term policies for more than 20 years and often fails to inform their customers of this fact. SD, a Primerica representative, in reply, asked him to,

“Please provide facts that Primerica has ever raised their rates after the guaranteed period. In fact I have been here long enough to see people renew their term policies at a much lower rate than the original guarantee.”

The claim that one does NOT guarantee a policy past a certain point is not the same as one raising rates beyond that point.

Is it the fault of the company that its employees cannot overcome objections in a way that is, well… logical? Yes, and no. A company cannot measure its employees aptitude for properly defending its services against criticism. However, it is in a good company’s best interest to disseminate information that will EFFECTIVELY combat (meaning, with proof or justification) negative claims, especially those that have arisen on numerous occasions. That’s just basic public relations.

Instead of addressing or refuting claims with facts, I have noticed that many Primerica representatives (not all, but a good portion of those who choose to defend the company for which they work online) either change the topic by introducing an unrelated subject, dance around the issue without addressing it head on, or instead attack the character and/or background of the person making the claim.

AGAIN, I do not know anything about financial services. I’m basing my observations on how Primerica represents itself to the public and how Primerica representatives address questions and eyebrow-raising claims.

Still, after reading what I have thus far, I’ve come to the conclusion that Primerica is not a bad company, as extremists on a few of the blogs I’ve read have claimed. It is a business, and is run as such, with profit in mind.

In my opinion: The fact that the company is an MLM structure, allows Primerica to seemingly lure its employee and customer-base because, generally, it is friends and family selling to and recruiting more friends and family. With the knowledge that one is purchasing from a friend, what need is there to search elsewhere (i.e. research and shop) for better prices on a product or service that hadn’t really been considered before? You trust your friends and family (unless you have a good reason not to), so the business model is excellent in that it perpetuates more and more clientele and employees without the skepticism or mind set of, “This isn’t the lowest price,” because of that aforementioned trust.

The biggest problem with that business model, is that it can prey on that trust, making the company’s core belief in “doing what’s right for the consumer 100% of the time” extremely difficult to achieve. Quite frankly, I think it is impossible. As a competitive company, how can you possibly do what’s right for the consumer 100% of the time, when you offer limited products and services at prices which are not guaranteed to be the lowest, and furthermore do not inform your customer that the products and services you are selling may not be the lowest-priced and most fitting of their needs. If that were the case, the company would too often lose chances at the untapped consumer (dissimilar to losing opportunities for competitive business i.e. changes from a pre-existing policy to a lower-priced option with Primerica) because you’d be compelled to let a consumer know if and when there are lesser-priced, better options available that will offer a solution to their problem, regardless of whether or not Primerica is the company which offers those options. And make no mistake, for people trying to climb their way out of debt or save money for their families, the lowest priced, best option is the “right” thing. In order to live up to its core beliefs (as found on the Primerica Web site), representatives of Primerica would have to be not only be honest, but forthcoming, keeping the consumer’s best interest (and not the bottom line of a nice commission check) in mind. That’s a tightrope that any moral salesperson walks, more especially, I would imagine, in an industry that is selling financial solutions. I certainly believe there a representatives within Primerica that adhere to such principles and genuinely seek to help others, doing so to the best of their abilities with the skills they’ve learned as salespeople and the certification they’ve received relevant to their industry.

That being said, the burden of GETTING the “right” thing completely lies with the consumer. What can one expect of a profit-minded business? When preparing to make a purchase or sign a contract that could potentially affect one’s life, it is the consumer’s duty to be informed, responsible and savvy. Thus  a consumer’s biggest mistake is made without those qualities; believing that someone who has pitched a product or service is an expert of their field instead of assuming he is merely well-versed on his product and the objections which his product most frequently faces.

But as I understand, those type of consumers, the informed kind, are generally not the bulk of Primerica’s clientele (as quoted from an articulate Primerica representative). So after purchasing Primerica’s products or services and becoming a believer (why, otherwise, would you have become Primerica customer/representative if you did not believe), a new customer/representative could understandably continue the cycle, unknowingly perpetuating information that has been regurgitated to him with possible omissions of the truth, and feel completely validated because he’s passed a test and thus delivers his presentation as fact. That’s doesn’t just happen in Primerica, it happens in most sales positions.

At the end of it all:  If you’re looking for a position where you can make money in SALES with hard work after some provided training and certification, then Primerica may well be a great option. Just don’t let the corporate climate affect your perception of what it really is: sales. If you’re hoping to be a savior for those having financial problems who are seeking counsel, while happening to make some money in the process, become a financial adviser.

As far as potential consumers are concerned, a good consumer is an informed consumer.

 

Jennifer Macourek is a  Florida native, born and raised in Miami, and currently living and working in Jacksonville.  She graduated from the University of Florida with a degree in journalism with a focus in book publishing and editing.  She hopes to use her writing skills to pursue a career in legal writing. For fun, She enjoys attempting to write poetry and short fiction, most usually of satiric nature.

Jennifer can be reached at: jennifer.macourek@gmail.com

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We’ve had a lot of experience with Primerica’s SMART loan. Here’s my story.

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A while ago (a very long while ago) a friend of mine sent me some numbers about Primerica’s SMART loan in a powerpoint format. At the time, I was having some serious problems on this blog, and was unable to follow through publishing this.

I’m not going to rehash it all here, but for a little history, you can visit this post for the back story.

Now, many months later, I can finally follow through on my promise.

Followers of this Primerica saga know that I had a SMART loan myself. I have an update to that little side story that I will post soon. But until then, the following is an article that Ken wrote last October or November to accompany the above slide presentation. And so now, without further ado: The SMART loan, broken down to all its nitty-gritty glory. The devil is indeed in the details. If you’ve been given a SMART loan proposal by a Primerica rep and you’re trying to figure it out. You’re going to want to read this and crunch your own numbers.

A SMART loan guest post
By Ken,

This is a SMART loan solution, one from October that I evaluated:
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Pay close attention to a few things on the second page:

Subsequent payments $718.25 * 26 payments =18674.50 divided by 12 = 1556.21 (This is the true monthly outlay on this loan)

Now, go to any loan calculator on line

Type in that loan amount $212,685.70 and tell the computer you want it paid off in 20 years at let’s say 6% (actually a pretty high rate for the timeframe this SMART loan came out.) What’s the required payment? $1523.75/month

At this point, you should be saying “Oh no, this can’t be true”

Next, look at the total projected timeframe the loan should be paid off on the SMART solution page: 22 years, 4 months.

Wait, The conventional loan will have a monthly savings of $30+/month and be paid off 2 years, 4 months sooner? Can’t be, the SMART loan is the best thing since sliced bread!!!

Let’s take this a step further. You see where it says subsequent payment $718? Look to the left. At closing, the client is required to pay $1436. Really, that should be taken off the balance on the conventional loan we just calculated because we’re borrowing that much less. Also, the loan costs on the 1st page includes more than $5600 in fees (Loan amount minus “debt included in proposal”). This is arguably $3000 more than a broker would charge. So in theory, the loan could be $4400 less if the client simply got a conventional loan.

Let’s type in a loan amount of $208,285 (212,685 – 4400 in extras)

Now the payment drops to $1492. So, the comparative payments from SMART loan vs. conventional loan is $64, again the loan is paid off 28 months sooner.

Let’s take it another step further, shall we? Let’s tell the conventional loan to be done in the same time frame as the SMART loan…22 years. The conventional loan payment is $1422. Oh my goodness, that’s over $100/month less than the SMART loan (and 2 months sooner to be paid off)

Hey, we like to talk numbers, right?

Let’s take that $100/month savings for 22 years at Primerica’s conservatively quoted 8% return. Using this calculator http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/simple-savings-calculator.aspx you will see that this client could’ve saved over $71,000 by not being SMART.

Ok, now let’s see what happened to this client if they sell their home in 10 years. The SMART solution says they’s have a balance of $153,000 (Ending balance in 2018)

Let’s see what the amortization chart says for the 20 year loan ($208285 @ 6%)
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See month 120 and notice a balance of $134,409, in a better equity position in 10 years by only $19,000.

In month 180 (15 years), SMART loan balance: $126,000, 20 year conventional $77,185 (Only $50,000 better).

So, there’s never one SINGLE MOMENT the SMART loan puts you in a better position. This is no surprise to full-time financial service professionals. We also know Primerica’s term insurance can cost upwards of 50% more than equally ranked companies that have been in business 3 times as long as Primerica. Not to mention, the insurance product lacks serious features, convertibility to permanent insurance just to name one. Also, the investments through Primerica charge the client nearly 5% before the money even hits the market. Invest $1000, $950 hits the market.

One final laugh…look who the “big bad bank” is that is being paid off in this proposal. Look under “Current Debt Listing” on the 1st page. This must be one of those banks that “wants everyone to be in debt forever”. Primerica, a division of Citigroup is only charging nearly $5,700 for this “gem” of a loan.

As I mentioned here, the Primerica discussion has been a very healthy one on this blog. I’d like to thank all of those who have contributed so thoughtfully and respectfully. That’s classy, and it’s a testament to the type of readers who take the time here to share their knowledge with the rest of us.

This next article was graciously submitted by another with direct experience working with the Primerica opportunity. It is, as you will see, very different from the one found here. My hope is that by sharing both stories, you, the reader and researcher can come to a determination about what you are looking for and feel good about your decision.

So without further ado:

The Primerica Opportunity

By
CCLeader

This is the first of an ongoing series of articles in regards to Primerica Financial Services (PFS), and the opportunities, products, agents, and more that so many are clamoring for information on. The ground rule I am setting for myself is that I will not use this series as a personal recruitment tool. To that end I will use a pen name (CCLEADER), and will not provide to anyone my contact information. I will be as informational as possible, and will try to keep my bias to a minimum.

I will use forthrightness when answering questions, and will accompany my answers with my philosophy. It will not always be in lock step with some of the rhetoric you might have been exposed to in other blogs, etc.

My PFS Experience:

I am a 40-year-old executive in the ultra cutthroat environment that is the automotive Industry. I have been successful at every level that I have attained, for really one reason. “I work harder and smarter then most everyone else!” I do not possess above average intelligence, but was blessed with an above average work ethic. I have an overwhelming desire to be the best at my craft.

I currently receive a 6-figure salary, and my opportunity for advancement is guaranteed. I have a wonderful wife and three children that are my “Magnificent Obsessions!” My reason for giving you this information is not to boast, but to demonstrate that I had no reason to be looking for a new career path. I do however always keep an open mind when it comes to potential business prospect.

I was exposed to Primerica through a friend of a close relative. I was really not interested in speaking with this person, but agreed. A long story short, after my complimentary FNA “Financial Needs Analysis” demonstrated to me that although we, as household, made a significant living, we really didn’t have anything to show for it. Worse yet we were not planning for the future of our children, or our retirement at the level we should be.

I looked at the opportunity in Primerica as a viable way to earn significant additional income and fund the short falls that our unchecked spending habits created. It was a sobering realization that we were sacrificing the welfare of our children and retirement for the instant gratification of plasma TV’s and new cars. It was difficult to see what financial position we were in all laid out in black and white. Hopeless was my initial reaction, until I turned the page to see a simple plan which would erase our entire $350,000.00 plus debt in 10 years instead of the 48 year track we were on. The plan DID NOT include a new mortgage, but an aggressive debt stacking model. That feeling of hopelessness was soon replaced with exuberance when it was also demonstrated that by earning extra income, and other factors, that not only were we going to be debt free, but our retirement will be funded, the kids education funded, and we would be off the credit cycle and on a life changing cash cycle forever.

Turning the page was a literal action taken, but as it turns out it had multiple meanings. The facts are that I signed up for Primerica right there and then. I didn’t research the company, although I had heard about it before, I looked at this opportunity with a pragmatic eye. You might ask why wouldn’t he have at least taken the time to delve deeper and find out more. All valid questions, but these were my rationale.

1. It was only $99.00 to start, and $25.00 a month for the support. (I spend more a month on car washes.)
2. PFS pay for your licenses.
3. PFS helped my family and it was profound.
4. If I didn’t like the company I could take my licenses and go somewhere else.
5. At the very least I was going to receive a better level of understanding of financial matters then I currently posses.
6. THERE WAS NO RISK!

To me there was no downside, so why not give it a shot.. I am a professional salesman, this to me looked extremely appealing.

Fast forward nine months later:

Primerica has fulfilled every promise ever made to me and my family. I took the bull by the horns and went to work. I became a district leader in 30 days, licensed in two states within 45 days, was putting money from commission into the funds we had set up with 60 days, and today earn significant additional income a month. I have recruited and brought almost two dozen new people into the business. I currently have a very good working knowledge of not only the PFS products, but most other companies best products. The educational approach used, and the simple principles adhered to have changed countless families lives. I feel a sense of pride when I unlock those mysteries of personal finance.

Let me caution you! If you think this is a get rich quick scheme, you are wrong. Most of the time everyone likes the idea of being wealthy, they just aren’t willing to do the work. What you will find is that you will need to change yourself, and learn to redirect your focus. If you are so concerned with what other people might say or think about you, then PFS is not for you. If you haven’t realized this yet, I am not long suffering for those who make excuses, and lack personal responsibility. You are where you are because you won’t do what it takes to change.

To wrap this initial installment I want those of you who are thinking about doing something, STOP IT…. JUST DO IT!!! This world is full of people who are thinking about doing something, in Primerica you can be a winner, but you must take action.

Until Next Time…

CCLEADER